Post by Wraith on Jul 28, 2016 3:09:54 GMT
Haha, you say you don't see the connection and then you post evidence for the connection! The white sword phrase is one part, yes. Think about it - the Kingsguard are people named after white swords, and the Sword of the Morning Dayne is a man named after a white sword. The SOTM lives in a white tower called "the Palestone Sword," a tower named after a white sword. The white swords knights of the Kingsguard live in the White Sword Tower... I mean it's pretty damn similar, no? And then we have the man was both Sword of the Morning and Kingsguard, the legendary Arthur Dayne, who unites all the white sword symbolism one could ever want. I could make a damn fine run-on sentence stringing it all together but I think you get the idea.
Then we have the triangulation with the Others and their symbolism. Dawn is "pale as milkglass and alive with light," the Others have bones "pale as milkglass" and swords which are "alive with moonlight." The Others are called sword-slim, just as the KG are white swords and the SOTM is named for a sword. Dawn is supposedly a star-sword, a sword made from a fallen star, while the Others have eyes like burning stars. An invasion of Others is like an invasion burning stars, in other words.
Then we have the Others and the KG. Both are called white shadows. The KG has snow white armor, the Others have ice armor. The KG have moon pale cloaks, the Others shine with pale moonlight and are themselves called milky white. The Others swords, although made of crystal, are also called "pale swords" twice in the books, equating them loosely with white swords in symbolic terms. The KG are even called white ghosts or something like that in one scene where the fog is swirling. Then there is all the NK - Rhaegar / NQ - Visenya parallels I commented on above, so check those out.
Well I guess I did stick my foot in my mouth on that. I knew Visenya modeled the KG vows on that of the NW. Still my thinking that the KG as an institution is just about 300 years old. Dorne didn't even join the 7 kingdoms till roughly a 100 years ago. Arthur Dayne is the first and perhaps only Sword of the Morning to join the KG that we know of. Perhaps the Aegon and his sister fought against a SoTM during the Dornish Wars and were suitable impressed?? There is no hint of that in the World Book or any other source I can remember reading. Even more ironic when you consider that the KG was founded primarily to protect Aegon against the Dornish.
So yes the parallels are certainly there and I will go reread the NK - Rhaegar / NQ - Visenya parallels you mentioned above. I was thinking more on a historical connection not a narrative one.