1.22 Arya II Apr 25, 2018 21:14:17 GMT
Post by shymaid on Apr 25, 2018 21:14:17 GMT
Jaime remember's Dawn as a white blade and very sharp, but he never seems to report that the blade was anything like "alive with light" or making noise, which makes me think that something special happened with Dawn at the toj. In Ned's dreams it is the blade that is alive with light, not the hilt, which is mentioned earlier in the dream. The speculation in part of that discussion was that perhaps the sword might have recognized Eddard, which is one of the reasons that SAD might have had a "sad smile" upon his lips. Perhaps Arthur realized that the sword was picking a new man to wield it, and that by returning Dawn to Starfall, then Ned rejected the sword.
It was in one of the very realy threads IIRC.
b) milk of the poppy
c) latent ability in Stark blood
All these could explain the "alive with light" part. Perhaps he only saw a white sword gleaming in sunlight, which transmuted into "alive with light" in his dream(s). Perhaps it was a small abiity he had due to his blood (cue: Lyanna and Brandon as centaurs), that gave him the ability to see it, and not via bloodtie to Dawn.
The screaming could point to a connection to the Other's swords, there seems to be similarities, but I'm not sure.
Well, if you've decided then...
Personally I don't think there's anything else than stones, bones and ghosts in the crypts. If something ends up being in Lyanna's statue or something like that, I'll probably throw up...
I'm very far from convinced that the original Ice was Dawn, even if Dawn is an Other's sword (which I'm not convinced of either). Basically I'm very far from convinced it chose Ned as a new owner.
The ability to wield a sword in itself might not be here nor there to be able to wield Dawn. If it was, history would probably be littered with SotMs. Of course, Martin is keeping things from us, but I don't think he'd lie. Which this would mean.
While possible, I doubt it. Again, that would implie that SotMs would pop up every generation and could be down to age alone if the current SotM was old. Again it would implie that Martin has lied. It might not be related to anything magical, but there doesn't seem to have been an every generation thing.
That the Smiling Knight wanted the sword isn't suprising, as it's fairly usual when defeating enemies.
What he thought might happen? I don't know. He'd probably handled Ice sometimes before (if his letting Jon handle it is anything to go by), perhaps he felt something like we hear about other Valyrian steele swords: that the sword activly participates in the fighting. If he felt something similar, that he didn't like/thought he could handle perhaps, he decided to return it. Or it could've been for some mundane reason, or just that Ned was Ned. It could be tied to him thinking there was no honor to the conquest, and so not tied to his own honor per se.
I need some very close rereads to really start formulating something other than just vague I think...