Post by SlyWren on May 3, 2016 3:01:45 GMT
Interesting point--so, Rhaegar as split between the mystic (yes, I'm hearing Van Morrison in my head--though I'd prefer "Gloria") and the politician.
Which isn't too different from the problems Dany faces--the prophesied stallion and dragon trying to govern Meereen by herding cats.
Seems like Dany is very likely to end up like Rhaegar.
Seems like Tywin was a means to an end--a way to bring about the political changes.
tzalaran's point, "benevolent."
It is easy to assume a man with mismatched eyes, deformities, and odd hair is evil. Yet, in Martin's writings, this often proves to be wrong. Instead, the handsome knight with the perfect smile is the one actually killing the king.
A fair point. But Tyrion's hardly a picture of sweetness and light himself. Effective. Good at keeping the badness under control. Looking out for people--all good. But still not a paragon.
Bloodraven was a good manager and ruler--but ruthless. Rather like Tywin. And Tyrion when he needs to be.
If Bloodraven thinks it in the best interest of whomever matters to him to deep freeze the continent, then . . . seems like he'd do it if he could.
Ah--so, instead of trying to purify the self by purging evil Mr. Hyde, this was a straight up conflict? I can see that.
HA! Touche, ser! But can't the trees scream without raising the cold winds? Let alone ice people?
I'm thinking he was the first one taught them. Taking the song of the earth and putting git into a human . . . dialect.
- I am the sword in the darkness.
- I am the watcher on the walls.
- I am the fire that burns against the cold, the light that brings the dawn, the horn that wakes the sleepers, the shield that guards the realms of men.
Lowercase. No proper noun. No landmark visible from space. And plural.
Possible--and could explain why the Black Gate is cold but drops warm tears. It was turned. . . cold by the Night's Kin and never properly turned back--like the horrors that happened at the Nightfort. The 79 Sentinels aloe get that done.
But Bran crosses through, it might be the beginning of warmth. Or a turn back for the Wall and the hinge it is on.
Very possible. Though, given the legend, I'm thinking he at least started raising the Wall before meeting his Pretty Priestess.
Or, the Wall raised itself, turning the hinge cold. . .
Regarding the notion that the LH/BtB thought he could defeat the cotf... they don't really seem to have been a threat any longer. They had already been defeated for all intents and purposes, and according to Maester Luwin, they had already been friends with the First Men in a peace that lasted four thousand years.
The info we have here is so sketchy and the timelines. . . are suspect.
My current suspicion is that neither side could win, so they pacted. But just because some people make a pact does NOT mean future generations are happy with it. And, so far, we have yet to see a completely perfect group of people. Anyone who perfectly keeps their word, let alone a whole group of people who do it. The idea that the Pact was a More Perfect Union--just seems highly suspect. At least without more info.
I'm going to try to reserve judgment, but for now. . . .I'm suspicious.
HA! Do you think they have old school class rings? Fraternity shirts?
But in my current theory of Symeon, someone with knightly intent took the wight over. We've told a few times that the blue eyes of the dead see. Even when Thistle'e eyes are gone, something else sees out.
So. . . whoever is seeing out, I'm thinking "Symeon" was taken over by someone with knightly intent.